Any Way to Play Classic BG Games without Troubleshooting?

ZaramMaldovar

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So I owe two copies of the classic Baldur's Gate games, both the original release and the D&D Anthology editions but neither work properly on my computer and troubleshooting doesn't seem to work.

Is there another way to play these classic versions of the game? I love the Enhanced Editions but I've been itching for that nostalgia run
 
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I think we have @Serg_BlackStrider who still prefers the originals (albeit modded heavily), so he might have some tips for you.
Yep, I still prefer the original games and have box versions (on CDs) of both BG1/ToSC and BG2 SoA/ToB. I use clean installs of those to build my current modded setups but originals themselves run without any issues on my current PC under Windows 10. Do you have ToSC for BG1? If so then try the following:
- make a FULL install of both the BG1 and then ToSC: Hit "Custom Install" and check EVERY box.
- apply BGTotSCv1.3.5512 (there are two of those - UK and US, depending on the version you have)
This should be enough.
You might also want to apply a noCD patch if you don't want to swap CDs every now and then. And optional - BG1FixPack11 and BG1TOSCGameTextUpdate11.
Check this link for the information about making a full installs.
If you need any of those official patches (bioware.com is no longer available), I can send those to you.

edit: Here are official patches available for download.
 

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Try running them on an emulator, or even a custom engine like GemRB. I run them with the WINE since I'm on Linux and I happen to like that emulator a lot, but for Windows you should be fine with GemRB.
I downloaded GemRB and it *does* launch the game but it always crashes either during character creation or after leaving Winthrop's shop
 

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If you own EE through GoG, you can play the original game that way without any troubleshooting. It works "right out of the box".

The original is hidden behind some kind of code you have to input. Maybe someone more familiar with it can post the exact procedure to unlock it. I never had to do it, because I already owned the original game on GoG from long before the EE was released.
 

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I got all set up and ready to do just exactly this a few days ago, then remembered my new laptop doesn't even have an optical disc drive anymore!!! The one thing I forgot to think of when throwing down for the new rig lol. Still got the discs though.

BG1 has all the charm for me. It was and remains in every way the best of the bunch I think. Like nothing ever topped it, and probably nothing ever will. I find my attitude towards that game and it's original presentation pretty much exactly analogous to the way I feel about Star Wars the motion picture. Meaning I'd almost always rather just be able to see that one exactly the way I remember it, frame by frame. I just love everything about that BG1, the look the sound the feel, all of it, that flash of stone, the boss paper dolls, the nice round shields. With Durlag's to ice it, can't go wrong there! hehe. Basically the perfect game. PST I also like seeing that way, with the full throwback vibe even though it didn't quite speak to me in anything quite like the same way that BG1 did for gamplay, I still really did enjoy the visual look of that one. It's sort the black isle creeping in I guess right? I don't know exactly how to pin it down, but PST was just a bit more Fangoria to my taste, whereas BG2 stopped a bit short and didn't quite have the full angle on it. BG2 obviously, love as well, all the way to the throne. I can do without a lot of the extra stuff though. I wish I could just hit a button in Steam to launch something called "Classic" mode or whatever to make it basically identical like a 1:1, since I don't have it on GoG. It's just hard to buy again, when I've already done that probably like a dozen times over. I had so many of those boxes and then bigger boxes and then smaller boxes again, many many scratched CDs followed by a re-swoop.

Out of curiosity if you got it running, how's the resolution feel? Is there a clean upscale for it that doesn't change a ton of other stuff?

My screen is 2560x1600 now. All I really want from BG1 is a nice upscale to make it not quite so tiny. I dropped that extra chunk of change to get another inch on top of my screen, so I think I could probably get it windowed a little closer to the old aspect right?

You know like 4K77 style or a project like that, that's just aimed at restoration more than redux. Has that been done yet for BG1? (like that actually looks passing fair for the throwback vibe?) Even if there was something that shot some grain up in there like fuzz on the old monitors, or I don't know, but you'd think they'd have conjured up a way to do that by now right... I'd hop on that one in a heartbeat just to make sure I got it! I mean I'd be watching Return of the Jedi on laser disc for years and years to avoid SEs on that one, so I know I can handled a couple black bars, but just would be nice to juice the height a little but nothing else hehe.

This is actually the first time in 20 some odd years that BG1 wasn't the literal first game I installed on a new computer when I got it home. This year it was BG3??? damn. I didn't even think of that till just now. I guess my hopes have been that high for the new one lol. Crazy to think on! I'll probably still never love anything like I loved that BG1 ToSC though. It's etched way too deep in the heart. I want like the museum piece version. BG2 I care somewhat less about with the re-duxes, but the first one had that magic something for me that makes it always feel worth returning, just to remember that feeling periodically and see what stuff actually looked like again.
 
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If you own EE through GoG, you can play the original game that way without any troubleshooting. It works "right out of the box".

The original is hidden behind some kind of code you have to input. Maybe someone more familiar with it can post the exact procedure to unlock it. I never had to do it, because I already owned the original game on GoG from long before the EE was released.
I don't how to do it I tried the serial keys it didn't work
 
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Update: Success! I ran a full install and it isn't perfect but it runs without lagging. I can play to my hearts content. If anyone knows how to do screenshots let me know.

This feels nice, but god I forgot how atrocious the pathfinding used to be.
I play in windowed mode and take screenshots hitting Alt+PrintScreen (capture active window this way) and then paste in Paint/Paint.net
 

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I'm on this kick again I guess. I'm hungry for something oldschool that can be easily played when the phone lines go down, cause it's happened to me like twice this week hehe. So here's my dilemma, although I have the old SoA discs, somehow I misplaced my ToB disc, and now that my laptop doesn't have a cd/blu ray drive on deck I've only got the one option on Steam currently.

This is what I would like to try and achieve...

First to get rid of every portrait not painted by Mike Sass in BG1/2.

For some reason even though I didn't install SoD or BG2 or ToB, I'm still getting the later EE portraits during Char creation and can't seem to ditch them?

I've tried everything I can think of and it's sort of annoying, so now I have a different plan. I'm trying to figure out what they are labelled in the EE scheme, so I can simply replace them with other images that don't bother me, but I can't find the label listings for any of the randos. I just want them nixed entirely so I don't have to see them in game anywhere.

What I'd like to do, since it seems the most straight forward, is to override in the portraits folder the same way I can with images for say Jaheira by using JAHEIRAL JAHEIRAM JAHEIRAS (for BG1), or NJAHEIRL NJAHEIRM NJAHEIRS (for BG2) etc. I know how to do this for all the regular Characters and EE Companions. I don't know how to do it for the randos, and those are the images I find problematic.

For the UI and the Sprites I can probably live with it for now, cause honestly changing that stuff around seems to be pretty tedious. I'd love some oldschool sprites and paperdolls and whatnot since I have everything just upscaled hot fuzz, I'd also love the old sounds, but I know there are a bunch of caveats on that, and I can't even find the older mods that used to work for that stuff anymore. So I'm just going to start with the portraits I guess since I'm more familiar there.

Does anyone know how to find these labels so I can just strike them out and replace them with something cooler and less fraught? I don't think I'm the only player who finds those additions particularly distasteful and I don't want to dwell on it overmuch, but I'd like to scrub my game clean in that particular way. Any ideas on how to pull it off?
 

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I'm on this kick again I guess. I'm hungry for something oldschool that can be easily played when the phone lines go down, cause it's happened to me like twice this week hehe. So here's my dilemma, although I have the old SoA discs, somehow I misplaced my ToB disc, and now that my laptop doesn't have a cd/blu ray drive on deck I've only got the one option on Steam currently.

This is what I would like to try and achieve...

First to get rid of every portrait not painted by Mike Sass in BG1/2.

For some reason even though I didn't install SoD or BG2 or ToB, I'm still getting the later EE portraits during Char creation and can't seem to ditch them?

I've tried everything I can think of and it's sort of annoying, so now I have a different plan. I'm trying to figure out what they are labelled in the EE scheme, so I can simply replace them with other images that don't bother me, but I can't find the label listings for any of the randos. I just want them nixed entirely so I don't have to see them in game anywhere.

What I'd like to do, since it seems the most straight forward, is to override in the portraits folder the same way I can with images for say Jaheira by using JAHEIRAL JAHEIRAM JAHEIRAS (for BG1), or NJAHEIRL NJAHEIRM NJAHEIRS (for BG2) etc. I know how to do this for all the regular Characters and EE Companions. I don't know how to do it for the randos, and those are the images I find problematic.

For the UI and the Sprites I can probably live with it for now, cause honestly changing that stuff around seems to be pretty tedious. I'd love some oldschool sprites and paperdolls and whatnot since I have everything just upscaled hot fuzz, I'd also love the old sounds, but I know there are a bunch of caveats on that, and I can't even find the older mods that used to work for that stuff anymore. So I'm just going to start with the portraits I guess since I'm more familiar there.

Does anyone know how to find these labels so I can just strike them out and replace them with something cooler and less fraught? I don't think I'm the only player who finds those additions particularly distasteful and I don't want to dwell on it overmuch, but I'd like to scrub my game clean in that particular way. Any ideas on how to pull it off?

I would recommend looking things up in NearInfinity. The portraits can likely be found under the .bam folder. Since the portraits are base game files, you will be unable to delete them from the game. Your only option is to replace them with other portraits. Let me know if you need any further help with this.
 
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