Who would have thought that computer repair is so hard?

JustKneller

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So, here's the situation. I game on a gaming laptop (Lenovo Legion 5) that I bought just months before COVID. This laptop probably got me through COVID relatively sane. I mean, I had/have the wife and kids, but let's be honest, the impact of family on sanity can be a little mixed (and I'm being very diplomatic here). It has been a great laptop, and largely due to the whole COVID thing, I'm a bit sentimentally attached to it. Even without that, it still performs well and runs the games I play on high quality without any hardware issues. The only problem is that the keyboard is a little beat up at this point and some of the keys are unreliable. A couple have popped off, but I've been able to get all but one roughly back in place. It's no surprise. Between gaming and the monstrous amount of typing I do for tabletop, I'm surprised the keyboard lasted this long. So, I need to replace it (hence the link I posted recently about weird keyboard prices).

Normally, I do my own repairs. Especially on a desktop, it's not that hard. Laptops can be a little tricky, though. For this laptop, I can't just pop off the keyboard from the top and pop the new one in. Instead, I have to go in from the back, pretty much gut the thing, and then basically replace it from behind. It's not outside my skill set, but watching YT videos on the process made me feel like I was watching open heart surgery on my own child. I literally shuddered at the point the laptop was stripped down. That being said, it's not like there's a ton of parts involved. It's maybe a half hour to strip the laptop down, put in the new hardware, and put it all back together.

But, I figure, no problem, I'll just hire someone to do it and save myself the psychological trauma. I start googling around for laptop repair, and I find four options.

1) Best Buy. Anyone worth their salt knows that the Geek Squad who works out of there is both overpriced and underqualified. I wouldn't trust them with a pocket calculator.

2) Another "medium box" retailer. There is an electronics store nearby with their own computer repair team. It's not a big box store, but they have a small number of locations across the U.S. I've honestly never even heard of them before this issue (since I do my own work and buy parts online), but I asked around and checked reviews and heard next to nothing bad about them. I stopped by yesterday to show them the patient and what needs to be done. First, they have a 4-6 week wait time on work since they are so backed up. Second, they quoted me $150 for something that I know is just a half an hour worth of work and I'm even providing the parts.

3) A local independent specialty computer repair shop. They have a website and good reviews. They have a location right across town from me. Or so I thought. I called them and nobody answered. I messaged them through their website and never heard back. I stopped by the location and it didn't exist. Ok, then.

4) Another independent specialist, no brick-and-mortar location. I was able to get him on the phone. He quoted me around $100 for the job. However, he doesn't have a shop. Instead, he drives out to your place, picks up your laptop, takes it to fix it, and then brings it back. Allegedly. I talked to him on the phone and so many red flags popped up with this guy. I'm not saying he would necessarily take my laptop and run, but I could see so many ways this could go wrong.

One thing that surprised me a little with this is the cost of labor compared to the time involved for the labor and really the simplicity of it. On the other hand, they are providing this service for people who can't or don't want to figure it out for themselves, so I guess that gives them a little latitude to pad the price of things. In any event, I think this leaves me with having to do this repair myself. I'll back up everything important to a hard drive in case it goes horribly wrong, but it really doesn't seem that hard, technically speaking. I'll have to plan time for it when the kids aren't home so there's no disruption (there's no where I can spread out around here that the kids can't get to). But, if I disappear, then things went south and I'm shopping around for a new laptop. 😁
 

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Not sure what country you're in, but in your place (if it happened in my country), these are the steps I'd take:

- check what brand the laptop has
- check if that brand has a site in this country
- check what official service companies have a license to work with that brand
- find the company close to my place
- call their service and check their working hours
- get the laptop to their place and submit it for repair
 

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I just poked around the Lenovo website a little more, found a service center locator, and it said that my laptop (based on S/N) could not be serviced.
 

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You're right about the box stores, they're crap. I've met people who worked for them who admitted they had no idea what they were doing and that they broke peoples stuff all the time (and the company doesn't even care). They basically figure it out on the job. In your case, they'd literally Google/YT a keyboard replacement and hope for the best.

I usually look for the boutique places that have a good rep. Luckily, there are one or two left in my city. That said, I've contemplated trying repair and building myself. However, I usually end up chickening out on the expensive stuff. I always say I'll build my next desktop. I'll get everything I need sorted through part picker, then chicken out at the last minute, because I'm afraid I'll pooch up. That's a reasonable fear, for me, seeing as I've never built a computer before, and I'm generally a lousy Mr. Fixit. The last thing I need is to spend a couple grand on parts and then break something. So I end up at the boutique again...

In your case, I think you're making the right call with DIY. Worst case scenario you'll learn something. But my gut tells me you're going to pull this off. 🤞🍀
 

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I think I'm sunk on this laptop thing. I cracked it open this morning and the guts didn't really love up with the YouTube videos I found. I didn't want to risk cooking the thing so I closed it back up. I did find a reputable repair shop that could take it in, but it was still a little pricey and they weren't going to guarantee the work because I provided the part (even though it was clearly direct from the manufacturer).

I'm thinking (sadly) it's all money better spent on a new laptop, which is also pricey. However, I've done some preliminary research and I think I can get away with a laptop that's even lower specs than my current laptop. I've checked out of the AAA industry so everything I play is either old or indie (and low system requirements). I don't think I even need a discrete graphics card. I figure my most resource intense games are probably Subnautica, Fallout New Vegas, or The Long Dark. The new CPUs should be able to handle that.

I might have another bash at DIY tomorrow, but it's looking likely that I'll have to buy a new machine. Maybe I can hold out for a black Friday sale or something.
 

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Round two didn't go well. I still couldn't find a decent video to walk me through it and had to work it out using full tear down videos. However, as I started the disassemble, I hit some screws that just wouldn't budge. I tried a few tricks to loosen them, but to no avail. I could see some of the boards starting to bow with the amount of pressure I was using. Any harder and I likely would have snapped something. So. I put it all back together.

For now, I have an external keyboard connected and am using that instead. It's all a bit awkward and practically feels like I'm using a desktop. It's just a short term solution. I started googling and using AI to work out what to do from here. I used to love netbooks. They're generally rubbish for gaming (except retro emulation), but for everything else I do, they're great, ultra-light and super portable. I would be fine with something like that for general use and then run this box into the ground for just gaming.

I guess big brother was watching because the internet made me an offer I couldn't refuse. Lenovo (my favorite brand) happened to be having a sale on a possible replacement for me. I'm not an impulse buyer at all. I immediately researched it extensively. The "regular price" was a little inflated, but after I looked into the market value of the key components, it was still a legitimate sale of about 30% off. I researched how this would compare to projected Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals and this deal came out ahead. It's only slightly more than I wanted to spend, but significantly more machine than for which I was budgeting. It actually costs a couple hundred less than my current laptop which I bought in 2020. This is partly because the new one does not have a discrete graphics card, but an IGPU instead. However, especially since I've bowed out of AAA, it will be good enough for anything I play. It's also one of the Lenovo models with the military-grade chassis so it will be plenty durable (even more so than what I have now) and half the weight of my current laptop.

I've never done a same day purchase on expensive tech before. But, I think the combination of the discomfort in my current setup, added to this new machine being more portable/durable than what I have (important), added to a little liquid courage in the form of some tequila, I pulled the trigger and ordered it. So it goes. It's been a good run with my current Lenovo (best laptop I've ever had, and I've tried all the big brands). In a week or so, it'll arrive and I'll be setting up a new machine.
 

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Glad to hear that. And I don't think this has been an impulsive purchase at all, as this thread is a month old, so you've had this issue for some time already. Hope the new device serves you well.
 
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